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JD: You are in production on a new show can you tell me a little about it?
TF: It
is centered on a sexual behavior seminar which is an elective course
taken by freshman, sophomores, juniors and seniors. The idea is some of
them are very active sexual and some of them are virgins. You not only
see what's going on in the classroom stuff but what they are dealing
with in their lives. Surrounding that the faculty are some very
interesting characters. JD:That is going to be shooting in NY?
TF: Yes JD: Have you come up with any of the cast for the show yet?
TF: We
are in the process of casting so I cannot really talk about any of that
yet. But the majority of the cast will be unknown younger people along
with some really good NY theater actors.
JD: You've done a lot of work in the "Theater" right?
TF: I
started as a playwright. Back 29 years ago when William Shakespeare
just started writing and I've done a lot work in the theater in stage
production. I think it's great. I think it is a great foundation for
anyone working in Television.  You put together
one of the best casts on Tv for the television show Oz and it paid off
tremendously. Along with the Sopranos & Sex in the city you really
helped develop HBO as a legitimate alternative to network programming.
What kind of things can we be expecting from the cast this time? Well
it's always hard to predict. You always want the best actors you can
get. What you want are actors who not only play one thing but over the
course of the series can give you a lot of different colors. In terms
of the cast I think a lot of them will be young but very talented. Not
just pre-faced. We just might find a couple of superstars.
That's great. I've noticed you shoot the majority of your show in NY. Do you find it's a great setting?
We'll
I'm a New Yorker so for me it's not only a great setting it seeds the
undercurrent of the shows. Not only that but I like to go to my
favorite restaurants at the end of the day when we are done shooting.
It's convenient for me to choose NY. I mean I live here and I love the
city and I love the whole insanity of what we live with. There is no
other place I have ever been that is like it so. Like I said it sets
the whole undercurrent of the film. You take OZ and like I said it was
just set on a prison on the east coast but just shooting in Manhattan
and having it set in Manhattan and later in Bayonne it gives it a
vibrancy that you wouldn't get from shooting in Toronto, L.A or
Topeka.
I'm so used to seeing the cast around town.
Without even having to say it's in NY you get a sense of the joy and the turbulence of being in NY.  I noticed you got your start on St. Elsewhere back in 82' with the late Bruce Paltrow. What was that like?
The
late great my dear friend and my mentor Bruce Paltrow. It was very
exciting. I had been a playwright and Bruce took an enormous gamble
bringing me out to LA to work on the show. You talk about Alice in
Wonderland I was just .. It was like overwhelming the difference
working in Theater and working in Television and Bruce was incredibly
generous and incredibly patient and demanding. He really taught me
everything I know about how to make a television show I learned from
him. That was really one of the biggest shows on TV at the time right?
It
was in terms of critically and in terms of the Ratings most of my shows
are usually hovering between life or death. and that one we had some
rough years and then we finally took hold but we we're always opposite
Dynasty and Dallas.. Those were huge shows. Everybody wanted to know
who shot JR not who got an appendectomy on St. Elsewhere.
You've
really worked with the who's who of acting on your shows and I was
wondering if there is anybody you would really like to work with who
you haven't had the opportunity yet?
That's a
hard question. Oh Boy. I would love to work with Jack Nicholson.. I'm
trying to edit myself because.. I'm just going to say Jack Nicholson. Who on the shows was particularly great to work with?
I've
been particularly lucky on all the shows that I've worked with that the
cast tended to be very ensemble and really took the word ensemble
seriously . Again it's hard to say on OZ Dean Winters and Lee Turgesen
were wonderful because in a very subtle way they were the leaders of
the cast. I don't want to say leaders of the show because they we're
really an ensemble but they really when a new actor cam onto the show
they really took care of them and they had to past Dean and Lee's
mustard. It was interesting to see that happen. They we're protective
of the show and the other actors, and that was very exciting for me.
You worked with Dean Winters on a previous show?
I
worked with both of them on Homicide as guest star parts. I also
directed Lee in a play years ago. I know them both and wrote the parts
with them in mind. The show became a huge part of them and they felt
responsible for the show and the other actors It wasn't to piss
on the other actors on OZ because we had a great group of people.
Vernie and Terry and Rita and Damon was a gift from the gods.
There were tons of great actors in there you always want to see in bigger parts but you never do.
I
was lucky but I've been lucky all the way back to St. Elsewhere. I'm
spoiled by working with really terrific actors. You look at St.
Elsewhere and there was Alfrey Woodard and Denzel Washington, and Ed
Flanders, Bill Daniels, Norman Lloyd and Bill Forrest. You know it was
a great group of actors to write for. Homicide was the same thing,
Andre and Kyle and Clark and that whole crazy bunch so I've been very
lucky to have such great actors to write for.
It definitely helps.
It
does especially for a show like OZ . If the actors are fearless it
gives me the courage to write something I might not have written if the
actors were more worried about their fan club or image than what the
show was about.
I've notice your sort of know for bridging the gap between 2 shows like you did on the Jury and OZ. What is that like?
On
one hand if you find an actor your in synch with you want to work with
them again. So I am always like I feel like I have this repertoire
company that a carry with me from show to show. The other thing
is that I think that TV it's not a lot of little pieces it's one big
big mosaic. To me all of Television sets into the mosaic so it's fun
for me to bring a cast from one show into another show.
I love that episode.
I
was fun because some of those people hadn't seen each other in a while
and we shot it on the same sound stage we shot OZ. SO it was a real
homecoming for a lot of them. Any stories from the set you would like to share from any of the shows?
In terms of? Some thing funny or interesting that happened?
One
of the most bizarre conversations Lee Turgesen and I ever had on the
set .. His character was taking a poop in the toilet in the cell.. This
is stupid why am I telling you this.. This is so stupid. Anyway we had
a conversation about whether he while he was wiping his butt whether
would face out or whether he would look back towards the toilet .. and
part of it was because we were trying to figure out where the camera
was going to be. But we got into this psychological discussion about
men who wipe facing out and men who wipe facing the toilet.
How did it end up?
I think he ended up facing out
because that's where the camera was (we needed the camera to be) ...
What was the psychological implications behind that?
The person who looks back wanted to
look back at what they had just pooped to see what their health was and the
person who looked out didn't care.
Do you have any advice for people who are trying to get into TV
writing or Directing?
If you can do anything else do it.
It is so impossible and it was impossible 25 years ago when I started and it's
gotten much harder. If you want to be in the business quote un quote you have
to have an agent and to get an agent is very very very very very hard
especially if you are based in the east because 99% of the at least powerful
agents are on the west coast. So it's just to be noticed among all the other
people who want to be noticed it's very hard. Having said that I do
believe and this is more about writing than it is directing that a good piece
of writing will be recognized. It might take a while and you have to have faith
and you have to believe in yourself and you have to not listen to people being
helpful to you as much you have to listen to people being helpful to you. but
if you believe and the writing is any good it gets recognized somehow.
Do you have any information about where people can send information
and headshots for casting for the upcoming show?
Our casting director is Alexis
Fogel but the first thing you would have to do is look at the break down
wherever the hell that is listed and see if there is a part you are right for
because if she gets too many she's just going to throw them all out. And
obviously you have to be in SAG because it's hard for us to get someone into
the union who's not already in the union.
What is you favorite show on TV besides your own?
Well I didn't say my own were my
favorite. I was trained by the Jesuits, I hate everything I write. You know
what is funny is that I don't watch anything consistently. I think there are a
lot of terrific shows on the air right now. I think JJ Edwards is really gifted
writer his shows are terrific. Joss Whedon the guy from
Buffy. Milch is genius with Deadwood and NYPD blue.. If I'm home
and turn on the TV there is bound to be something I'll watch. I also have to
admit that I've started to buy a lot of dvd's for old television shows that not
that I had never seen but that I had remembered and went I wondered if I would
still like that. It's been interesting to watch things like right now I'm
watching "The Guns of Will Sonnett with Walter Brennan which remembered as
a kid.
I can't believe they even released that!
Yeah. That's the thing the more
obscure they are the more I like them. But it was a show that was on in the
60's that I remembered vaguely. It's a very cool western. It's a half hour
western. So I do spend a lot of time watching DVD's too.
I've noticed that you do a lot of stuff with Barry Levinson. Right and
he's an incredible director what is he like to work with?
Yes well he and I are partners. You
what s great about Barry id that he looks at the world from his own unique
perspective and he can in a very subtle way he can ask a question of a writer
or a director and it makes you go like yeah why am I doing it that way? There
has to be a better way. He doesn't force anything on anybody. Though he has
wonderful ideas if you ask him. But it's his great kind of like he's the king
of what if we tried dot dot dot...and that's so exciting because the tendency
in especially in television is to make the same thing over and over and over
and over again on a week to week basis and on a season to season basis.
And so to work with someone who wants to keep reinventing it is very exciting.

He's a wonderful Director.. I know you do a lot of stuff in
television are there any big screen projects in the works?
I don't know this yet but I'll tell
you this and you can do what you want with it. I might be writing the
screenplay for the DC Coming Sleeper. It's a very obscure one. I am actually
writing a graphic novel a Batman graphic novel for DC Comics and I'm writing a
book for Harper Collins. I'm not I mean I'm not one of these people who say I
have to be writing feature films. If one comes along I'm interested in I'd be
happy to do it but I'm pretty happy in television because you know if TV the
writer is god and in feature films the writer is one of many, easily
disposable. For me what's fun about doing the comic and doing the graphic novel
and doing the novel it's just you want to keep stimulating yourself and saying
I haven't tried that as opposed to writing another interrogation scene for a
homicide unit which is a lot of fun but you say how many of those do I have to
do before I get bored.
You won an Emmy once for a show that was just a whole hour of an
interrogation scene right?
A whole hour yes, which was a
joy to do but after a whole hour you say ok how many more of these do I have in
me.
So what is Sleeper about?
Sleeper is about a guy who is. I'm
trying to boil this down. Who at one point worked for a gov't. agency. Federal
agency. Undercover. Sort of CIA ish organization and has gone over to the other
side and he's like undercover on the other side but he begins to realize that
the other side isn't that bad and that the people he's working for are worse
than the people he's now trying to take down. It's very dark and very gloomy.
It's very Tom Fontana. It's all about betrayal and all those good things.

Are there any subjects you would like to cover in upcoming TV projects?
Yeah I have a million ideas and to
be honest is what I would like to do is start getting away from crime. That's
what fun about the WB show is it's about college and there are no dead bodies.
It's good to do a new show without a dead body.
It is set in NY?
That's true we might stumble across
a couple over the course of the episodes. You know I have an idea for the SCI
FI Channel. You want to keep seeing what is out there.
No particular dream project?
No particular one. No I guess maybe
that half hour comedy series with Jack Nicholson.
Well that's' about all I have. It's been really great interviewing
you and you put out such a high quality of work over such a long time that it's
been a real honor to talk with you.
Thank you. It means a lot coming from you. It has been fun
for me too!
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